Visual Run and Break(overhead break)

25 Apr 2014 13:39 #15079 by Rafdave
Visual Run and Break(overhead break) was created by Rafdave
This is the standard way for military aircraft (excluding heavies) to make approaches to an airfield. It allows for a quicker approach as the aircraft isn't slowed down until the last possible opportunity. Ill put the calls you would make to ATC below!

The diagram below (although basic) shows the ground track that you should aim to fly.

You approach the RW slightly offset to one side or the other. Point 1 (called the initials point) should be a couple of miles out from the runway, at this point you should aim to be about 500>1000ft, still at high speed(350>500kts) and flying parallel to the Runway.

Point 2 is the point at which you make the break either level at 1000ft or climbing to 1000ft if you start low. The break is a high speed high G turn through 180 degrees. This turn, in conjunction with the throttles to Idle/speedbrake, reduces the speed of the aircraft to your approach speed.

At point 3 you should be levelling off at 1000ft and slow enough to start configuring your aircraft for landing i.e. flaps/gear. This is the downwind leg.

You can then either make your final turn for the RW at what ever range you are comfortable with. The more experience you get the sooner you can do it as youll get used to he turn needed. Point 4 doesn't have to be exactly where it is in the diagram, it could be an extra mile or 2 out.

This final turn is a 2nd 180 degree turn which if completed correctly should line you up directly with the RW for landing.




For formations approaching an airfield they would do exactly the same procedure....only the breaks would be completed in turn (normally separated by a couple of seconds) this will space everyone out and they would follow each other around and land in turn one behind the other.

dare I say it ......a bit like this :P:P:P

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25 Apr 2014 13:57 #15085 by Neilson
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Very cool stuff :)

For formations approaching an airfield they would do exactly the same procedure....only the breaks would be completed in turn (normally separated by a couple of seconds) this will space everyone out and they would follow each other around and land in turn one behind the other.


This is exactly how i would love to have us all land on the FlightNight's.
If this could be marsterd by most, a FGUK close formation flight from take off to landing should look pretty good

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25 Apr 2014 14:06 #15087 by Rafdave
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This is exactly how i would love to have us all land on the FlightNight's.

Yep it would be Good


The only calls that are needed to ATC would be as follows.

1) an initial call to request a visual run and break
- you'll then be given permission, the RW in use and the altimeter setting
plus if appropriate how many other ac are around for your info

2) Report at initials "callsign-initials"
- You'll be given the positions of any relevant traffic already in the circuit

3) Report on the break with your intentions (Land, T&G, Low App)
- You'll get the Surface wind in return plus told how many are ahead of you to make an approach

4) report turning finals and confirm your gear is down "callsign-finals gear down)
- youll get permission to make the app.




Not that complicated .....really :P certainly easier that how some of the civil type controllers make it on occasion
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25 Apr 2014 18:36 #15095 by Algernon
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That's what I'm talking about - job done, no fuss, feel professional.

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26 Apr 2014 12:04 - 26 Apr 2014 12:05 #15103 by Neilson
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Can't believe i only just remembered, this is how i land on carriers. Seems very much the same as the OVERHEAD BREAK

which means i have a identical landing every time.


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26 Apr 2014 14:54 #15108 by Rafdave
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Yep exactly the same and works in pretty much anything. Its the perfect way of spacing a formation out as well.

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28 Apr 2014 14:24 #15150 by Vodoun da Vinci
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*THAT'S*! what I'm talking about!! This is real life ATC and procedure that applies to FGUK!

Well done, Dave and Thank You!!

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01 Sep 2014 18:02 #17594 by J Maverick 16
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Today (as ATC) I've learnt some new great stuff for me, thanks a lot to Dave.
I've already seen this approach version at LIPA in the real life, but I didn't take care about.

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